Comments on: California legalises gay marriage http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:37:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Perry http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage#comment-678 Perry Tue, 27 May 2008 23:29:25 +0000 http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage.html#comment-678 Equality is a good thing. No one has to get married. This is about choice. Equality is a good thing. No one has to get married. This is about choice.

]]> By: Suzy Byrne http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage#comment-677 Suzy Byrne Sun, 18 May 2008 23:27:10 +0000 http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage.html#comment-677 Coughs...There are loads of voices. Some of us are hanging out in the bold corner looking for choices rather that a one tracked approach to regulating our lives. I always had a crush on the bold girls in primary school. Now it seems I am one. Dermod I'm sure you could provide some psychoanalytical insights into that! I would love to think that both the pursuit of marriage and marriage itself was being queered here. However I think the q word left the building that is the lexicography of lesbian and gay life here a long time ago. Coughs…There are loads of voices. Some of us are hanging out in the bold corner looking for choices rather that a one tracked approach to regulating our lives. I always had a crush on the bold girls in primary school. Now it seems I am one. Dermod I’m sure you could provide some psychoanalytical insights into that!

I would love to think that both the pursuit of marriage and marriage itself was being queered here. However I think the q word left the building that is the lexicography of lesbian and gay life here a long time ago.

]]> By: Dermod http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage#comment-676 Dermod Fri, 16 May 2008 09:18:44 +0000 http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage.html#comment-676 My, you are cranky in the mornings. "Imposition" - ridiculous. It cannot be imposed. "Hierarchical" - rubbish - it's about equality. The institution exists already, but is not available to all. Once it is, the choice to live outside of marital conventions naturally presents itself. But, now, queer people do not have that choice. I am for making that choice available to all. "Retrograde"? Hardly. The queering of marriage is what interests me. The rejuvenation of it, the rethinking of it, the reworking of it to encompass 21st Century lives. The relational honesty necessary to make it work. Making long-term relationships work is important. Especially for men, which is my particular agenda. In answer to your first question: that would be you, then. And here's a question: what harm would gay civil marriage do? My, you are cranky in the mornings.

“Imposition” – ridiculous. It cannot be imposed.

“Hierarchical” – rubbish – it’s about equality. The institution exists already, but is not available to all. Once it is, the choice to live outside of marital conventions naturally presents itself. But, now, queer people do not have that choice. I am for making that choice available to all.

“Retrograde”? Hardly.

The queering of marriage is what interests me. The rejuvenation of it, the rethinking of it, the reworking of it to encompass 21st Century lives. The relational honesty necessary to make it work. Making long-term relationships work is important. Especially for men, which is my particular agenda.

In answer to your first question: that would be you, then.

And here’s a question: what harm would gay civil marriage do?

]]> By: Keith Ridgway http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage#comment-675 Keith Ridgway Fri, 16 May 2008 08:58:04 +0000 http://bonhom.ie/2008/05/california-legalises-gay-marriage.html#comment-675 "Progressive pro-marriage" appears oxymoronic to me. Are there any genuinely progressive queer voices questioning this rush towards the imposition of hierarchical relationships in Ireland at the moment? Or is the entire country continuing its eager huggles of retrograde liberal equality-or-sadface bullshit? (I just got out of bed.) “Progressive pro-marriage” appears oxymoronic to me. Are there any genuinely progressive queer voices questioning this rush towards the imposition of hierarchical relationships in Ireland at the moment? Or is the entire country continuing its eager huggles of retrograde liberal equality-or-sadface bullshit?

(I just got out of bed.)

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